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Post by w0426116 on Dec 10, 2013 2:37:20 GMT -6
"The art of firing" sits very well with me. I do agree that there should not only be an entire manual for firing someone but a class taught on the ethics of firing as well. I also agree with the fact that it should be clear and unbiased as to why said person is terminated (I.e. not solely getting on one person's nerves).
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Post by ebonisw on Dec 10, 2013 11:46:14 GMT -6
You have to deal with each person differently. You don't have the same conversations, interactions, or dealings with everyone you meet, so when firing them, this conversation will be different also. Keeping track or occurrences on the job as well as keep the employees informed, they will understand what they have done to be let go from the company.
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Post by alyssatudor on Dec 10, 2013 12:19:33 GMT -6
This video gave some great advice on how to fire someone. I haven't ever had to fire someone and can only imagine what it would be and that it must take a lot of preparation has to go into that kind of scenario. Having a balance between being straightforward yet compassionate must be a very fine line and something that has to be followed rule by rule.
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Post by rjmonico on Mar 10, 2014 23:09:21 GMT -6
I would definitely share this video with friends and colleagues. Thank you Professor! I think that every company has its own way of getting rid of employees that are not a good organizational fit for the company. Every company needs to have an exit strategy. I believe if an employee is going to move on to another job that putting in a 2 weeks notice is respectful and courteous for the opportunity given with the current company.
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Post by allisonschex on Mar 22, 2014 9:09:43 GMT -6
This video gives great advice on how a company should go about firing a employee. It's never easy to deliver bad news to somebody but if they aren't meeting the requirements and doing their job it's in the company's best interest to let them go. It is important to keep things professional and not let feelings get involved while letting someone go, it will only make the process of letting someone go even harder. This is a great video for any manager to watch, it could benefit them in several ways.
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Post by patrickschwaner on Mar 29, 2014 14:11:18 GMT -6
I've never had to fire someone, but I can imagine that it is not a pleasant experience for either party involved. I like the advice given in this video for ways to approach a termination scenario. By creating a peer-driven culture with clear expectations, firings will be a much cleaner process. However, it is also important to handle each situation individually and to keep people's feelings in mind.
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Post by bmcgarry13 on Apr 2, 2014 22:43:53 GMT -6
This approach on firing seems to be pretty humane, but I question if its ultimately the right decision. Managers are responsible for firing and hiring because not everyone is good at it. Firing being contingent upon group thinking, could lead to responsiveness issues. If an employee is causing problems or is not a good fit, it is important to fire them sooner than later. Valve's approach might string people along. I prefer a system where others can influence decisions, but this firing system is too flexible and dependent upon the whims of others. What if one person having access to financial information knew an employee was affecting the bottom line, but he/she couldn't convince others without the financial information to agree?
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Post by kelseywatson on Apr 7, 2014 13:53:14 GMT -6
The act of firing has three different steps you need to include. I think it is better to have a team decision to fire someone. You don't want to be fired based on someone not liking you. Firing is really bad for most people to do. You have to be very cautious when firing someone because you never know how they will take being fired.
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Post by katelynjones on Apr 8, 2014 20:22:26 GMT -6
This was a good video and firing tends to be a sensitive task to handle. It very good to have documentation of why you are planning to fire someone for legal reasons. I had this happen when i was a manager. I had an employee who was constantly late for her shift. Which made other people have to do more work because she was late, so i documented every time she was late and our policy stated the rules about being late. It is always important to handle these situations with professionalism and always remain calm in the situation.
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Post by mwinner123 on Apr 10, 2014 22:59:50 GMT -6
Firing is one of the most difficult things to do in a business and for a business owner. However, I am quite fond of this technique of firing where the employees reach a consensus about firing that individual. I think this leaves less room for discrimination and favoritism. Along with that, it gives a clear expectation that each employee is responsible for his or her own work and will not be able to slip through the cracks and do nothing. Every employee is watching and every employee technically has the power to fire you or present the idea of firing you. Firing someone is very hard, especially if he or she has a family that they are trying to support. Therefore, it is critical that we maintain a sense of compassion and professionalism when firing someone, but also a sense of authority and not present yourself as someone who can be walked on and tested. Like she said in the video, set expectations up front so that there are no surprises. This way, each employees understand the procedures and what to expect from his or her fellow employees and supervisors.
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Post by kati3 on Apr 11, 2014 15:12:02 GMT -6
I think firing will definitely be the hardest think about working in HR. This video has given me some good insight and has made it seem a little less personal than I feel like it would be.
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Post by codylejeune on Apr 11, 2014 23:34:43 GMT -6
This video has gives a great insight on how to fire someone. Having to fire somone is the worst, but it is a part of everyday life. I have never had to fire someone before, and hope to never have to, but if the time ever comes, when I do, I will keep this video in mind.
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Post by pellirf22 on Apr 12, 2014 0:45:05 GMT -6
TITLE- The Art of Firing: The Valve Way
Firing employees can be difficult when emotions are involved. I agree with valve that the best way to approach this task is as a group and with sufficient reasoning and documentation. If all the proper steps are followed throughout this process the actual task becomes seemingly easy.
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Post by nataliedodds on Apr 14, 2014 15:52:42 GMT -6
I hope I never have to fire someone, but if I do, this video presented some valid points. Each person is different in the way that they handle bad news. With that being said, the person terminating should keep that in mind and act accordingly. Be understanding. Do it in a very professional and upright way. I've heard of someone getting fired over an email. Bad idea!
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Post by lmoore on Apr 14, 2014 18:24:01 GMT -6
Valve is a great example of a company that deals with firing in a professional way. As a team they decide if someone has to go. They set expectations of employees so there are no surprises and employees can’t blame others for their shortcomings. They suggest handling each situation based on the individual situation while remaining professional and compassionate. This is a great video for managers who deal with letting employees go.
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