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Post by shantel on May 4, 2014 14:01:50 GMT -6
The message of the video was a suitable approach to firing. Firing is one of the most sensitive procedures in the workplace and take a gentle approach. I agree with the video the employer should have everything documented to support the firing decision. However, firing can gets complicated if the company is firing an employee unrelated to their performance. such as structure changes, in that case a company should help with the employees job search.
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Post by shantel on May 4, 2014 14:02:54 GMT -6
The message of the video was a suitable approach to firing. Firing is one of the most sensitive procedures in the workplace and take a gentle approach. I agree with the video the employer should have everything documented to support the firing decision. However, firing can gets complicated if the company is firing an employee unrelated to their performance. such as structure changes, in that case a company should help with the employees job search.
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Post by brettstirling on May 4, 2014 18:25:41 GMT -6
This is an interesting way of dissolving the issue of firing someone. This is certainly a way that works best for a company such as this because of the structure of its own work functions. Every person is allowed their own direction and each person is responsible for their own outcome because of that. I think it's a great idea for team members to decide the fate of their coworkers. This would allow someone's abilities to be examined more closely and in relation to the team as a whole rather than a single, managerial position that could be heavily biased. I think a clear documentation of an employees progress or lack of is pretty standard in the firing process.
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Post by brittanycompton on May 5, 2014 14:24:18 GMT -6
Valve has a good system in their way of how they fire. I think alot of things come play a part in if someone is going to fire someone. And the video is right it should not a one man decision because what if that one person is the only person with the problem against that person. Firing is never an easy thing to do. I have never personally had to fire someone but I have had to put my input into a decision whether someone should be fired or not. I don't think anyone really want to have ownership of that firing job, but someones has to do it. Its is important to have a good team at any company or organization and if someone isn't a good fit then they need to go sooner then later because it will hurt the company in the long run to keep them on.
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Post by darnette on May 5, 2014 19:10:57 GMT -6
The art of firing isn't an easy thing to accomplish. Though firing someone is often times a team driven conclusion. It is always a hard thing to do because you never know that person's current situation. But like everything important in the world, there should always be a paper trail of actions done and actions taken by the individual being firing and their supervisor. Without proof of wrong doing or lackluster performance, the company can face legal issues later.
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Post by stephaniesmith on May 6, 2014 11:03:37 GMT -6
I like the way the company approaches firing but it reality, it would need to be tweaked if it were to work in a hierarchy environment. I also don't think it's fool proof in that the decision is made by a group who could be influenced the make a certain decision.
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Post by melanconcaitlin on May 6, 2014 11:09:42 GMT -6
From my own experience I believe the most helpful hint from this video is documenting short comings that lead up to the firing. At my previous employment we had an employee who had many chances and kept falling short and was eventually fired. The bad part was my then manager did not document any of the previous activity that lead to his firing. Due to this the employee was able to file for unemployment benefits and was able to receive them due to the lack of evidence the employer couldn't present.
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Post by jimmykotter on May 6, 2014 12:02:12 GMT -6
love valve! they make great games and I'm glad to hear that they have a good system, even though they are such a large company they make sure they are able to asses each situation on an individual basis. when companies get too big, they begin to try to a rule and expect it to be cut and dry but if you can realize that every employee deserves individual review then you will allow for more motivation and eventually more production.
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Post by jjohnson on May 6, 2014 16:46:12 GMT -6
I agree with this video about documentation for firing someone; you always want to show something that justifies your decision to fire someone, because it may go to court. The rest of the video I wasn’t to crazy about. I didn’t agree with everything, such as a peer decision to fire someone. I believe trained people are the ones who should decide someone’s fate at a job, not their peers. The video said that this idea would avoid being fired based on one person’s opinion, but what if you have a small organization with one employee who dominates/bullies everyone else; situations like this should be thought of. This one bullying employee may force other to think/say what the bully feels and not how they, the employees, truly feel.
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Post by kourtneyb on May 6, 2014 19:38:27 GMT -6
I think this is such a unique approach at such a difficult task. Firing is a hard task to do, however it being done as a group decision seems much less stressful. It's like the firing squad, everyone shoots however no one has to take deal with the remorse alone. I think this would also cause an individual to be mindful at all times.
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Post by Rosie on May 6, 2014 21:52:49 GMT -6
Firing employees is one of the negative duties for management. If I become a manager or higher lever position at a company, I will eventually have to do some firing. I believe there is a proper method of letting someone go. You definitely need to remain professional and poised, and not let emotions get in the way. As the video says, your decision to fire someone should not depend simply on if you like them or not, but on their work-related issues.
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Post by asanchez on May 6, 2014 22:52:50 GMT -6
I totally agree with Valve's view on firings being a group decision. This means that just because I did one thing wrong that effected one person, the totality of my value may outweigh that one negative thing. I think personally that this is a good way to approach firing people. The only problem might come when the employees stick up for one another and the bad employee might end up sticking around for longer than they should. I do agree that when firing an employee, good documentation and personal approach is the best way to go.
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Post by Shondrea Lovette on May 7, 2014 22:01:43 GMT -6
The video provided a plateau on how to fire someone. firing someone can be very hard and especially harder if you and that worker had a good working relationship. Every employee is different and everyone is different but when firing someone it should be tactful and peaceful no matter how the other party may respond. This video gave good pointer in how to deal with firing someone.
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Post by halearnold on May 8, 2014 9:45:47 GMT -6
I have neither a positive or negative feeling on this video. If the approach works for them that's great. I don't understand it fully, but I am sure it is part of the company culture and the people who choose to work there embrace it. I don't think that voting is a good way of firing or terminating someone, but I do like that way they point out the clear expectations.
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Post by robertnicholson on May 8, 2014 10:34:34 GMT -6
Firing people can be an unfortunate thing too have too doo. I have never had too fire someone but am fully aware that one day I will have too do so. The most important thing I can do is analyze whether they need to be fired. Are they a good employee, do I have enough money to pay them. These are important questions.
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